What is Was Like Growing Up at Nutrition World

Cady Kuhlman (00:00)
No, dad and mom actually never focused on the bad stuff. So they weren’t saying antibiotics are bad, Tylenol is bad, this food’s bad. They just almost focused on what was healthy. Does that make sense? So it wasn’t a, they’re doing wrong or this is bad, you can never use this. Because then I almost think it would have been so black and white, it would have been detrimental for me. It was the way we do our kids in our household, it’s we put healthy foods in, we model the behavior with no sodas.

you know, no red dyes in our house. And I feel like they don’t question it then because their world is just surrounded by the health.

Clint Powell (00:32)
stuff.

Hi, Katie Coleman. Hello. Did I say it right,

Cady Kuhlman (00:40)
You did, you got it.

Clint Powell (00:41)
Okay,

I was asking and I was just said it’s cool man. Yeah. So the new nutrition world podcast, I had your dad in because he is your dad. Correct? Is your dad. I had him in to talk about the origins of nutrition world, how it got started, why I got started, and how it’s changed the years and changed quite a bit. I don’t think a lot of people in Chattanooga that know of nutrition world know that full backstory. But I remember starting off knowing your dad when he was over in Brainerd Village, I was a customer and then I became a sales rep when I was in the radio business.

You were little running around helping stock shelves and doing things and now you’re not anymore and you’re here You’re a co-owner and we’re gonna talk about your journey a little bit. First of all, what was it like growing up in the The health world and the holistic health world we’re gonna leave your dad out of it because we’re not gonna talk about it me look directly in the camera at your dad. We’re not gonna do that today That’s a different podcast but talk about going up in nutritional world that whole environment

Cady Kuhlman (01:38)
Yeah, absolutely. So I loved growing up in a health environment. I did. But I think it’s funny because there’s things that I thought were very normal for a household that actually probably weren’t normal. ⁓ So for instance, we carried butter to every restaurant we went to, like a stick of butter, because my parents were not okay with the quality of butter at restaurants. ⁓ So I thought that was normal. I thought everyone was concerned about their quality of butter. ⁓ Growing up, we didn’t have cereal in the house.

Cereal was a huge no-no for my dad because it’s basically mostly sugar, especially, know, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, things like that. The good stuff. Yeah, the good sweet stuff, right? So no cereal. So I don’t think I had cereal until like 15 or 16 when I’m over at a friend’s house type of thing. ⁓ So we just, and we always looked at health from a perspective of like, what’s a root cause. So I never had Tylenol, I never had something to mask a symptom. And I just thought that’s the way most of the country lived.

So honestly, was pretty eye-opening as I got older and saw that I probably was in somewhat of a bubble there growing up.

Clint Powell (02:38)
Did

you have instances where you mentioned going to a friend’s houses where they were looking at you like, what you’ve never had cinnamon toast crunch? And you haven’t explained to them, you’re the weird ones, not me.

Cady Kuhlman (02:45)
Yeah, yeah, no truly.

Right,

and then I got to college and I’d buy all the Cinnamon Toast Crunch on earth, you know. Well, you go talk about

Clint Powell (02:54)
We’re go through the phase. Yeah, it seems like your dad your family was a little bit ahead of the curve They were like 20 years ahead of realizing that sugar was bad and the portions were bad And then we were not being told the truth completely by the

Cady Kuhlman (03:07)
Exactly

dad definitely was ahead of the curve because you know back in the 80s and 90s I mean we were sold the lie of margarine We were sold the lie of saturated fats are bad all of that. He knew all of that was not true He knew margarine was bad. He knew parquet. Sorry. I know you eat it He knew that was all bad and he was not gonna waiver even though that was very much sold to us that it was healthy for us So yeah, I mean like I said, I don’t think I had a Tylenol growing up one antibiotic

Clint Powell (03:22)
You just drop that in there on me. Yes

Cady Kuhlman (03:36)
my whole life. So just a very unique childhood from a health perspective.

Clint Powell (03:40)
So you move in and because these podcasts are designed just to be a little shorter We’re gonna kind of move to the next you know phase of your life you did that childhood You had mentioned going to college and then kind of were like, ⁓ Maybe red dye 40 taste

Cady Kuhlman (03:52)
Good.

But really probably my only rebellious thing with food was the cereal. To be honest. Yeah, the cereal. was like

Clint Powell (03:59)
But that pulled through, you kept a lot of the healthy habits.

Cady Kuhlman (04:01)
I did, I did, because I noticed how good I felt. So I’d already made the connection of, if I eat this, I feel better, I have more energy. So I didn’t deviate that much. And I would say one thing from my childhood, they did always allow gummy worms. That was actually my favorite thing. So gummy worms after dinner, a dessert when I wanted it. So there was definitely a, it wasn’t so strict to where you see the child do the total opposite in their college years or adult years. So I would say there was a balance. So I did have red eyes when

Clint Powell (04:29)
My point, well, I bring this up with your dad when we host the radio show. I think if you build a world that’s so strict, know, trees bend. That’s how they actually can be, you the wind won’t just snap them because they’re so rigid. I think if you build a life that’s so rigid, you will snap. You have to build in some joys of life, some things that allow you some flexibility, and maybe it is an oops moment. It’s an intentional thing, though. And if you feed a little bit, you then have the majority of it that is healthy. So you go to college.

Cady Kuhlman (04:56)
Exactly.

Clint Powell (04:58)
You said you kind of went a little crazy on the serials, but the other stuff, did you notice a difference in how you were feeling compared to your friends?

Cady Kuhlman (05:06)
Yeah, I would say I did I was able to have a little bit more energy than they would they were staying in bed longer They weren’t getting up and you know as quickly as I was different things like that See, I always kind of had the connection made early on. Okay

Clint Powell (05:19)
This

is gonna be a weird question and we’ll answer it as quickly or as long as you want to and then we’re gonna transfer We’re gonna kind of move trans transition over pivot over to being a mom. Yeah Did it was that was there a downside to having so much focus on? The science behind the medicine and the food in other words Is there a part of you that you were so aware of things that you go like, okay, I’m focusing too much on health

Cady Kuhlman (05:44)
No, that’s a good question. No, dad and mom actually never focused on the bad stuff. So they weren’t saying antibiotics are bad, Tylenol is bad, this food’s bad. They just almost focused on what was healthy. Does that make sense? So it wasn’t a they’re doing wrong or this is bad, you can never use this. Because then I almost think it would have been so black and white, it would have been detrimental for me. It was the way we do our kids in our household, it’s we put healthy foods in, we model the behavior with no sodas.

you know, no red dyes in our house. And I feel like they don’t question it then because their world is just surrounded by the health stuff.

Clint Powell (06:18)
Well, and again, like, yeah, it does. And I like it. You’re giving them the options and they also were giving you a little bit of the other so you could have it. It wasn’t like you felt deprived. Right. Do you like the new shift in the country towards the focus on ingredients in the food, the focus on what we’re putting in our body, even from the medical industry? Is that something that is right in your will,

Cady Kuhlman (06:38)
Absolutely, it has to happen. I mean we’re so behind compared to other countries other countries you turn a cereal box over They have eight ingredients on that cereal. We have 48 ingredients. That’s stupid. I mean it just is

Clint Powell (06:50)
Isn’t it weird you see the pushback coming from people sometimes because I’ve heard in conversations here, right? For years we’ve been talking about how as a society we’re getting bigger, we’re getting more unhealthy, the diabetes, the heart conditions, all the… It’s like we’re getting sick, everybody acknowledges it. And then when someone comes along that tries to refocus it, everybody goes, but wait a minute, this is crazy. And I’m like, is it crazy or are we crazy for just doing the same thing and expecting different…

Cady Kuhlman (07:16)
Results exactly no absolutely because we look at other industrialized countries and we’re one of the sickest and we actually have shorter lifespan Than other countries we do so 74 for men and I think 78 for women other countries are upwards of getting into their 80s with both men and female What’s going on? You know we have to look at the toxins in our food. We have to look at the dyes We have to look at the additives the preservatives We’re just hit a toxic sludge all day long and it becomes how much can that person’s body stand?

and genetically stress levels, sleep levels, depending on how much can that person stand, when will they get a symptom of some disease? That’s the way it goes.

Clint Powell (07:53)
And I didn’t know toxicity was a real thing until I started hanging out with you guys more Because I would say I want to detox and everybody look at me like what part of your body man? How much and what specific thing?

Cady Kuhlman (08:04)
And I love that topic, so growing up, here’s something, detoxing was, when people would walk in our store and ask about detoxing, we’d say, just drink enough water, eat enough fiber, and make sure your bowels are moving. That’s We didn’t realize how toxic things were, and honestly, 30 years ago, it probably wasn’t quite as toxic. Now it was some, but we did not see these conditions coming in that people are coming in with as toxic as they are now. So we would just give those three simple remedies. Just eat well, drink water, and make sure your bowels are moving. Now,

No, we’re having to people protocols to detox because the toxins have accumulated in their fat cells, in their brain, I mean everywhere.

Clint Powell (08:39)
And it’s weird because I’ve heard this testimony from so many people that will actually stick with it start and do it You don’t know how bad you feel until you feel good. And then they’re like man I didn’t think I had brain fog till I did this and apparently I did Ben. I didn’t know chronic inflammation I thought it was because of I was just aging. Yep, and everybody’s like now you try this stuff

Cady Kuhlman (08:59)
And

that’s my testimony. we got to college, but after college is when I started getting into chronic fatigue, brain fog, total plum exhaustion, slurring my words. A few friends were calling me Alzheimer’s Katie. It was terrible. was a rough phase of my life and it was due to toxicity. So there’s a gene, the MTHFR gene that we can get into another day, but it doesn’t allow the body to detoxify very well. There’s 40 % of the American population has this gene and it just means the body recirculates toxins in a

in a less efficient manner than someone that doesn’t have the gene. So what happens essentially is toxins are recirculating and they’re not going out through the colon, through the urine, through sweat glands, things like that. So that person just holds onto those toxins and then gets symptoms.

Clint Powell (09:42)
It builds up, right? It builds. keeps getting more. It’s collecting more. We’re putting more into our system. It’s not getting rid of it as efficient as it should.

Cady Kuhlman (09:48)
Yeah,

and then it spills over and it’s just math exactly. Yeah, you just keep adding. Yeah

Clint Powell (09:53)
All right. So again, because we try to keep these a little little shorter, let’s talk you about when you became pregnant. Yeah, so you become pregnant and now your mom you have to write you have to yeah and Make sure we can tell that I was being smacked on Okay. Well, the reason I bring that up is that I’m assuming and because I know you have to rhetorical question that even took your emphasis on health to a different level because now you’ve got someone that’s a hundred percent dependent on your right decisions

Cady Kuhlman (10:06)
and then a third on the right.

Yeah.

Clint Powell (10:23)
Tell me about that shit.

Cady Kuhlman (10:24)
Yeah, totally. So I think, you know, as being a parent, the most important thing you’ll ever do is raising your kids. And so you want to show up at a level that’s just exceptional beyond where you’ve ever shown up. You you want to show up for your job, for your spouse, but for your kids, it’s next level. So for me, the way I looked at health is like, how can I have more energy? How can I be a more grounded, positive person? And how can I show up at all, pretty much all day long at all avenues of life as the best person I can be?

So for me, it’s an unwavering decision to keep my health on track, which means I wanna stay focused on what I’m eating, not because I’m obsessed with a way that I look or a way, it’s a way that I feel, because when you feel better, then the kids feel that. You know, the kids see a more happy mom, the kids see a more energized mom, a more present mom. So I would say that this is probably the most strengthened in my wellness and health journey than I’ve ever been, because it matters the most right now to me.

Clint Powell (11:18)
Yeah, and couple things, and then I’m gonna give you the platform back. So a couple things, one, to affirm what you said. I know it’s true for dads. I also know it’s true probably even to a ⁓ different degree for moms, especially working moms, and even all moms are working. 100 % of moms work, I understand that. But when you’re working inside the home and outside the home, and you have children, and you have a husband with expectations, a lot of times the people that mean the most get the leftovers. And to your point,

If I can put myself or you can put yourself into a place where when you show up, you’re showing up. Exactly. you still have enough. That’s a different thing. Again, we’re modeling that that kid is going to see that. Exactly. OK, but that focus now, when I was alluding to it earlier, that transition and how it looks different, you’re looking at food differently when you’re pregnant. You’re looking at formula different when you’re pregnant. The chemicals you’re putting on your body. I know we can’t address all of that, but let’s instead of just being big picture. Yeah, I changed my perspective.

What did you start doing? How much research did you go? What were the resources you looked into? How did you know that this formula is better than this formula? These diapers are better than those diapers. This breastfeeding, sunscreen, all these things started coming on your radar.

Cady Kuhlman (12:28)
Yeah, and it can be overwhelming. would say for me it wasn’t as overwhelming because I already was living quite non-toxic. For the average human, I could see that it would be overwhelming. you all those changes? No, you can’t make all, and you just do the best you can. I don’t expect anyone to do perfect, and I always say once you know better, you do better. So once you start figuring out things, you slowly make the changes. But what I would say is I would first focus on what you’re putting in your mouth, so the food that’s going in. When you’re pregnant, I mean…

Clint Powell (12:36)
No bake maker.

Cady Kuhlman (12:52)
the less processed. I always say shop the outer aisles of a grocery store. The outer aisles are all the simple ingredient, real foods. If you think about it, that’s the dairy, the yogurt, the beef, the vegetables, the fruits, those simple ingredients. That to me is where you start with your food. And then the next thing you focus on is what’s going on your body. So a resource for what’s going on your body is ewg.org. That’s my favorite website. You can look at every household ingredient, your laundry detergent, your perfumes, your shampoo, your makeup.

your anything that you’re using, because I always say, this is kind of fascinating, whatever you’re using on your body, you’re probably using it every day, right? You’re putting your deodorant on, probably putting your perfume on, you’re putting your makeup on, that’s every day. You probably don’t eat the same foods every day, but you’re getting the same toxins out of what you’re putting on your body every day. So you’ve really got to watch what’s going on in your body every day. So very much. So ewg.org, and then they have an app called Skin Deep, and you can actually scan your items from that app. So you could scan your deodorant, you could scan your shampoo.

and it will list every ingredient to see the toxicity level. So that would be a starting place, I would say.

Clint Powell (13:57)
I wrote something down We’ve I’m gonna marry two topics up. You’re trying to show up with enough energy. I got a feed I’ve got to take care. I’ve got to make sure I’m the mom I want to be the hut the wife I want to be but there’s also this thing of convenience if it can be fast and thrown in the microwave That’s great. That helps me out That’s a hard line to walk

Cady Kuhlman (14:21)
So we don’t have a microwave. So I don’t even know about that life. I had to remove from my house

Clint Powell (14:26)
Fantastic,

because you remove the temptation just to make it easy.

Cady Kuhlman (14:28)
Well,

I wasn’t gonna be tempted. My husband might be tempted. He still says, man, I’d like to throw a hot pocket in there occasionally. I’m like, stop. Hot pocket. Yeah, so no, mean everything. goes in the oven or it’s heated up on the stove. I don’t even question that anymore. Now I remember growing up, my grandma, she lived to be 98 years old. She cooked our chicken from raw to cooked in the microwave for 18 minutes whilst we sat there at the dinner table blasting it by our heads. you know, mean, there’s obviously, there’s, ⁓ things can work for some people.

Clint Powell (14:57)
podcast or sources you gave that one source out let’s say and let’s stick on just women who are either pregnant or moms and say I want to be a more healthy mom either because my kid in me my child in me is depending on that or I want to model or be you know more healthy for my child are there’s other places you go

Cady Kuhlman (15:13)
Yeah, there’s two books I like to recommend. So, The Mama Natural, it’s my favorite book. A lot of people, maybe even of your generation, would remember the book, like the week by week book. I don’t know, look in the camera. I had to say that. My generation. The week by week, like What to Expect, I think that’s what it was called. had it. Yeah, okay, this is kind of like the more natural, holistic version for the moms nowadays. So it tells…

Clint Powell (15:25)
Continue on the week.

Cady Kuhlman (15:36)
foods to eat, tells ⁓ herbal remedies, it tells what nutrients you should be taking, it tells what you should expect. It’s a wonderful book. So The Mama Natural, I love that one. And then the second one is ⁓ Raising Healthy Babies and Kids by Aviva Rahm. It’s wonderful. And that’s gonna be remedies for the children once they’re born. So when you’re home and you’ve got a newborn or you’ve got a toddler and they’re sick and you don’t know what to do, you don’t know what herb is safe, you literally have an index that tells you every single type of

situation and you flip to it and then you’re given the natural remedy. So that’s very empowering. Because it’s nerve wracking to be a mom when you’re not well versed in this industry.

Clint Powell (16:13)
If you’re only given one tool and that’s all I’m not saying anything with the medical world I get it everybody needs medicine from time to time I’m you know I’m probably not as far as you are on that But I will say if that’s the only tool I have then it gets become very nervous one do I have access to it all the time? Right in time and second if I’m not comfortable with that do I have alternatives if I don’t have any if all I have is a hammer in the in toolbox everything must be a nail so you’re just about putting other tools in the toolbox how about

Facebook or social media groups or podcast. I don’t know where you get I just know there’s other sources I’ve heard you talk about where you can go and get some best practice stuff from The one called natural mama or something. There’s a Facebook group. I thought that was out there that you

Cady Kuhlman (16:56)
there’s a website I love, Momovation. Okay. And so it rates all formulas, it rates ⁓ prenatals, it rates mom products, it rates topical stuff for moms. Momovation, it’s a really good website. ⁓ The Mom of Natural is the book I recommended.

Clint Powell (17:11)
Do you carry products in here though for this kind of stuff? I’m asking that rhetorically. That’s what I’m If people here locally are going to shop, you are a good source to come in here.

Cady Kuhlman (17:15)
Absolutely.

Absolutely,

and then I do want to say one of my favorite lines we carry in our store is called Dr. Green Mom. It’s made by a pediatrician, so that automatically makes moms feel comfortable that a pediatrician knows enough about herbs to make her own tinctures. So what she does is she makes a Nature’s antibiotic remedy, she makes a Nature’s ibuprofen remedy, and it’s pretty powerful that she’s able to put these on a label, make it all through herbs, and then she doses it on there by weight. So the mom can go home and say,

Okay, my child’s nine months old. How much do I take? the child weighs 10, 12 pounds. Okay, I’m gonna dose it by that. important. Yes, and I would suggest for mom to keep those on hand because when the baby’s sick is when you panic, right? So you’re at home and then the only thing’s open is Walgreens or all you have is Tylenol. You do what you have, right? So you stock more things and then you feel more empowered.

Clint Powell (17:57)
It just removes the guesswork out of it.

Well, just like you have a medicine cabinet. Yep. You know, for people who do take a lot of ibuprofen, you’ve got it on your system, right? I’ve got it there. So when I need it, it is there waiting on me. I will say we should do a separate podcast in about three or four weeks and we should spend time on formula. Don’t you think it’d be good?

Cady Kuhlman (18:27)
Yeah, I would love that. Absolutely.

Clint Powell (18:30)
So people should start going on that rabbit hole right now. Right now. How did you, real quick, let’s end it with that. And how did you get into the formula rabbit hole? Because I’ve heard that a bunch. Look at your body language changed completely. It’s kind of a monopoly.

Cady Kuhlman (18:44)
It’s ⁓ kind of the gangster.

Yeah, it is. So there’s basically two companies that own every single formula that’s on Target shelf, that’s on Walmart shelf, and they’re going into doctor’s offices or pediatricians and they’re selling them on why those two formulas, two formula brands are the only ones that babies should be on. And it’s idiotic because if you look at the ingredients, it’s high fructose corn syrup, which is damaging to the liver. It is not easily processed. It’s not healthy. There’s nothing healthy out of high fructose corn syrup.

And then the number one allergen to babies is cow’s milk. We weren’t meant to drink cow’s milk, really ever, but especially the first year of life. So when babies are put on that and they’re colicky and they’re spitting up and they’re screaming and they’re unhappy, and then they’re put on a PPI or acid reflux medication, no, it’s not addressing the issue. There’s alternatives. Yes, we look at other countries, they’re doing goat’s milk. Now not goat’s milk, just raw from, they’re doing goat’s milk formula. So it is a very nutrient-based formula.

obviously breastfeeding is number one, but if that can’t happen, goat’s milk, 100%.

Clint Powell (19:45)
But that’s way deeper than that. And we’ll talk about that on another podcast if you’d be okay with that. This was fun. We went quick. I think we did good. And if there are questions we’ve left unasked and unanswered, then we’ll get you back in and maybe through. Bye everybody. ⁓

Cady Kuhlman (19:59)
I would love that. Thank you.