Why Prescriptions Weren’t Enough: A Clincal Pharmacist’s Wake Up Call

Dr. Curt Dearing (00:00)
When I was running my diabetes clinic, for the first several years, was nothing but pharmaceutical management. We’re starting you on this Metformin first. And we’re, we’re gonna up the dose of Metformin. ⁓ your A1C’s doing a little better. And then they come back six months later. Well, your A1C’s going up a little bit, so let’s add on this new drug over here at a low dose. And then, okay, it’s working. And then next time they come in, it’s starting to, it’s just a constant.

The drug works a little bit, but then they overcome it with their lifestyle because you’re not getting to the root of the problem.

Clint Powell (00:38)
Dr. Kirk Dearing. How you doing, sir?

Dr. Curt Dearing (00:41)
this morning. you for asking. How about you?

Clint Powell (00:43)
I’m

good and I have personal podcasts on the side and really the conversation we were having before we started recording is going to be a fantastic podcast one day. But this is for nutrition world. These are relatively new. They don’t we’ve done podcast in different formats for years, but this is a relatively new way of doing it. And so we’re just going to talk for 20, 30 minutes. I want to find out more about you, but I heard myself because I listened to me say, Dr. Kirk Dearing, what are you a doctor?

Dr. Curt Dearing (01:11)
I am a doctor of pharmacy. It’s called a PharmD. Those became pretty popular in the mid-80s or they started in the mid-80s and then by, I’d say by 1990 something, almost every pharmacy school had gone to PharmD for a number of reasons. One, just to add some gravitas to our degree. Two, it added an extra year to PharmD programs so they could get an extra year of tuition out of it. Yeah.

In my opinion, not everybody really needed a PharmD. The old registered pharmacist was probably good enough. we were trying to elevate our profession to be able to be more clinically involved. we even have, now we, mean, back then I did a residency. So we have one year and two year residencies that people do. Because clinical pharmacy is a little different than your regular pharmacy.

And so that, and I chose to be a clinical pharmacist. I was lucky to be able to do that because my wife was an attorney at the time. Oh wow. Making good money so I could afford to have an extra year of not having an income. Right. And so it worked out great. All right.

Clint Powell (02:19)
So

that’s, wanted to start with what your bona fides were. And we’re going to do this kind of in reverse. I want to start with the end in mind of this conversation and then we’ll, we’ll kind of gradually get to what you do here at Nutrition World. But since you’ve been, you’re coming from the pharmacy world, the clinical world, the medical world. Now you’ve been at Nutrition World for a little while. What have you learned or how has your perspective to the holistic approach to healthcare changed? Cause you’ve been immersed in the other side for decades. So now you’re here.

you’re around a completely different mindset, how has it shifted in how you think and has it helped you to have both kind of smashed together?

Dr. Curt Dearing (02:57)
absolutely. And I started moving into this direction when I was looking for something for my mom, starting to have some cognitive decline. And so I realized we had nothing in the pharmaceutical world that seemed to be very effective. It might slow the progression, was about the best they could do. So I looked into the nutraceutical world, to the green pharmacy, and

man, I started her on a whole protocol of about seven different things. And we could talk about that another time. And it turned her around just like that. That was when she was about 86, 85, and she’s 91 now. OK, so. Yeah, and anyway, that turned around. that’s that’s and I already started moving into more treatments beyond pharmaceuticals because and I don’t know if this is.

Clint Powell (03:32)
How long ago was that?

five or six years ago.

Dr. Curt Dearing (03:52)
where you wanted to go with this. But when I was running my diabetes clinic, for the first several years, it was nothing but pharmaceutical management. We’re starting you on this Metformin first. we’re going to up the dose of Metformin. ⁓ your A1C is doing a little better. And then they come back six months later. Well, your A1C is going up a little bit. So let’s add on this new drug over here at a low dose. And then, OK, it’s working.

Clint Powell (03:54)
I know where you want to.

Dr. Curt Dearing (04:21)
Next time they come in, it’s just a constant, the drug works a little bit, but then they overcome it with their lifestyle because you’re not getting to the root of the problem. And if you’re not getting to the root of the problem, which is what you’re putting in your body. So I went through a personal transition in my life about nine years ago where I’m tired of being tired. I’m tired of the brain fog. I’m tired of just feeling bad every time I eat. And so I said,

I looked at my sister and brother-in-law who had gone to a plant-based diet several years before that. They lost weight, they’re active, they’ve got energy, life’s good for them. So I’m like, oh, that would be great for me to be able to feel that way. So I educated myself on the plant-based diet, went to a plant-based diet, and it turned me around. So I already knew that the knife and the fork, that what you’re putting in your body is a

big difference. So all of a sudden I was like, why aren’t I doing this with my patients? And so the minute I implemented plant, and I say plant-based, think plant-based is a huge way to start down the right path. Right. Because if you just all of a sudden knock out all the meat, knock out all, most of the processed foods, I call it oxidatively stressed. And people ask me what kind of diet I live, is it paleo, is it this? I just say,

I try to eat a low oxidatively stressed diet. That doesn’t mean you’re eating stuff that doesn’t cause inflammation in the body. So plants are antioxidants, so therefore they’re not causing oxidation. right. you eat. I ended up coming back around to me when I finally came to the conclusion, and I hope I’m right, you know, you never, you’re always, I’m about 99 % assured that if I eat low amounts of organic, grass-fed beef and organic chicken,

Clint Powell (05:56)
meet some right or do know

Dr. Curt Dearing (06:15)
It’s the meat is only as good as the animal it came from and the same with the dairy. It’s only as good as animal. And this whole throwing them in a factory thing and expecting to feed them grain and give them antibiotic shots and hormone shots, steroid shots, just you’re not going to get healthy meat from that. You’re just not. But the healthy cow out on the farm living the good life in the sunshine, that’s going to develop healthy meat right there.

Clint Powell (06:22)
raised and how it was cared for.

Dr. Curt Dearing (06:44)
So I’m comfortable eating that meat and I still try to keep the portion sizes in perspective.

Clint Powell (06:49)
change your world when you started implementing those restrictions and actually, and you know, think it’s Jaco that says it, ⁓ discipline equals freedom. A little restraint, little, boundaries around that, open your eyes up to wait a minute, maybe there’s alternatives for the people coming to my clinic before I start with the pills or in conjunction with the pills, maybe I should stress these other things that are more in their control.

Dr. Curt Dearing (07:13)
Yeah, and it made such a huge difference. It no longer was, what are we going to add on next? It was, what can we take away? I was getting an average of four point drops in A1Cs and people would say four points. Where are these people starting? Real quick.

Clint Powell (07:30)
and I don’t want to spend too much time. are shorter podcasts. What’s A1C? Tell everyone.

Dr. Curt Dearing (07:33)
A1C

is an indicator of your average blood sugar over the last two to three months. And I had people in the A1C of, my A1C is about 5.4. Your average person out there that’s fairly healthy is 5.3, 5.4, 5.5. 5.7, 5.8, 5.9, you’re starting to get Pareta, know, 6.5 and above. Well, I used to have people that were in the 10s, 11s, 12s.

Clint Powell (07:59)
double and triple almost.

Dr. Curt Dearing (08:00)
Oh, and so these are people who are averaging sugars over 300, 350 and stuff. But when all of a sudden they weren’t drinking the high fructose corn syrup drink, I used to be able to drop people two points on their A1C just by getting them to stop drinking real cokes or real whatever, the high fructose corn syrup. Made a huge difference. But since I’ve been doing all this diet stuff, the only thing that’s changed with me since then is I probably have

I’ve learned since I’ve been at Nutrition World and being around Ed is that maybe it’s a little bit of that oxidative stress and stuff. Maybe I didn’t give carbs or not, going a little more lower carb. I don’t think you need to go no carbs.

Clint Powell (08:44)
Well, but also because you also do coaching and we’ll end up on that here in the next few minutes, but it’s also so individualized, right? It’s it’s it’s what works for me. Some of that may work. What you did may work. Some of that would work for me. But at I’m going to hit a point of diminishing returns where if I want to be the best version of me, then what I’m doing off that base change now becomes individualized. Right. That’s why when you talk to people, you’re like some people can get away with more carbs. Some people can’t.

Right. Ed has a thing about ⁓ oxalates, you know, some foods. There’s some foods that hurt him worse than they do me. Right. And so I think that’s the point where it becomes, I think what you do here and what folks like Amber and Katie and Ed do, the coaching component is so important because it first of all gives people the basis to start. Where do I start these big things? Now I’ve implemented those. What do I do next? And how can it be different from what I see on TikTok?

Because what you see on TikTok is not usually specialized or personalized for the person. And do you like do you like working here? The answer said you’re on their podcast. Well done. I was hoping that is said now.

Dr. Curt Dearing (09:50)
yeah, it’s been good.

⁓ I’m loving every minute of it. It’s been great. Well, you’re right. Well, and I call myself a truth seeker and that’s what’s led me to be here

Clint Powell (09:58)
learner, you got your doctor degree.

I’ve heard you

already implement some of the phraseology, the knife and fork, the green pharmacy, those. It seems like you already had the mindset before you got here. You’d already gone through.

Dr. Curt Dearing (10:10)
Yeah.

that whether and the whole reason I got here was because I was working with a nurse practitioner at the homeless clinic. So I created clinical services at the homeless clinic and some of the practitioners I worked with down there, one of them, her husband had worked with Ed and she was like, and she knew, I guess she knew enough about Ed to know and every time I would talk, she would just say, you.

ought to meet Ed Jones, you guys are a lot alike. And I think she was probably talking to our whole political, just so many things about us are in line. She was like, you should go talk to that guy, you know, because you all are so much alike. I was like, well, it must be a good guy, you know, but anyway. So I did, I reached out to Ed and he we ended up having a meeting and we went down, started talking and I kind of told him where I was with my career. And I said, you know, I’m looking

Clint Powell (10:56)
What a great human being.

Dr. Curt Dearing (11:09)
for the next thing to do or whatever. Five minutes into the conversation and realizing, I guess, how much we were aligned in our thinking. Five minutes into it, he’s like, I want you to work here. And so I was like, okay, sounds great.

Clint Powell (11:22)
You know, he and I’ve talked about this and I’ll get your take on it. And then I want to dive into what you do here and some of the things, protocols you may use for folks. Uh, but he and I talked that, uh, and I don’t, I’m not being political, but COVID in itself changed a lot of people’s minds about things, right? Had their own approach to health, what they were being told by people, what they weren’t being told by people, what they were allowed to say, not allowed to say. And now, especially as we look back on it, I think it is,

I think it was a game changer for health, not medicine, but for health. And it sounds like it met you at the right time. And I can tell you one of the reasons Ed gets excited when he meets people like you and his former radio host, Dr. Green and Thera and other people that he’s brought on here is when those clinical medical worlds collide with this holistic approach and there’s openness to discussing the benefits of both. You gotta have both at different times and for different reasons.

Dr. Curt Dearing (11:54)
No, I agree.

Right.

Clint Powell (12:17)
When he finds that kind of mind, wants that on his team. And when he meets people like you, I remember when he first met you, because you’re not going to believe this guy I got, He’s well versed in the medical stuff, but he knows that it’s limited. And so he hungry hippo’d you, man. He pulled you in quickly. Was it immediate good vibe where you’re like, I’m here, I’m in? Oh, yeah.

Dr. Curt Dearing (12:38)
Yeah,

okay. Yeah, I kind of felt like I was moved. Yeah in some way I was moved to be where I am how did you?

Clint Powell (12:44)
How

did the what you do now evolve? other words, when you first came here, I would imagine, and I kind of know a little behind the scenes, there’s some like, okay, what am I going to do? Right? I’m at this different place. Now what you do is you coach between four to 10 people a week, depending on it, and you spend a lot of time with your clients. But now you’ve got it kind of down to a system. Tell people what you do. Who’s a good client for you? That’s a good way to put it, maybe.

Dr. Curt Dearing (13:03)
I do.

The guy

coming to me today that has a calcium score of about 117, so he’s got moderate heart disease and they’re wanting to put him on several different medications. The good news with him is he hasn’t started him yet. So I’m going to take him down the green pharmacy path and put him on some great things there. ⁓ I mean, that’s a good case study as far as we’re going to get him from the beginning before he even gets to…

Clint Powell (13:42)
He’s

not a year down the road on.

Dr. Curt Dearing (13:43)
I say the one I brought up one time and another ⁓ on the radio show, I brought up a guy that basically two drugs had led him down this path of total, his health was just poor, right? And it was two different drugs. It was a statin and a proton pump inhibitor that had led to his demise. Every side effect and every other drug he was on was a result of starting on those two drugs.

Clint Powell (14:11)
We talk about this all the time, take this, I feel better, now I’ve got a side effect, we need this pill to fix the side effect.

Dr. Curt Dearing (14:16)
Well, the problem with the statins is you don’t ever feel better with anything. just… Yeah. Anyway, it led him down a path. Now, the proton pump inhibitor, people that take those, they’ll still tell you that makes him feel better because it’s getting rid of some of the GI side effects, the reflux and the different things. The problem is, and that’s another person I’ve got coming in in the next couple of days, is that it’s about a 30-day period.

you know, that you should be on these and that eight weeks maybe at most and the people that keep taking it for year after year after year, that’s where you end up with problems.

Clint Powell (14:55)
I don’t like this podcast all of a sudden.

Dr. Curt Dearing (14:57)
Maybe you should come see me. I got a whole protocol to get you off.

Clint Powell (15:01)
I might because it’s really I tell people all the time. It’s really the only thing I take that if I don’t take it for two or three days I see it

Dr. Curt Dearing (15:06)
difference.

Well yeah because you’re getting reflux you’re getting rebound yeah you’re in a sense you’re sort of physically addicted to it.

Clint Powell (15:13)
I

don’t know where the camera is exactly, but this is how you get free medical advice, ladies and gentlemen. Just become a podcaster. You don’t know how many times I’ve gone, that’s fantastic, and I’ll leave here and go buy the product.

Dr. Curt Dearing (15:22)
One question you had at the beginning and then you got kind of got to it again and I still haven’t answered it yet but which is where what has changed since I started working here and that is the amount of nutraceuticals that are out there that are effective that I had no idea even existed. All right so for instance I put together this thing we’re gonna be doing a little Instagram thing where I’m gonna say

Here’s the pharmaceutical that’s popular and here’s the green pharmacy ⁓ alternative. So I put together 10 things here and let me tell you how many I knew about before I started working at New Go for it. So NSAIDs, ibuprofenolide, what would I have said prior to working here? Maybe I knew a little bit about curcumin but I certainly didn’t know how good it was, that it had all the studies to back it up or whatever.

So I didn’t know the value of curcumin and I didn’t know anything about Boswellium. right, so there’s two things I knew nothing about. Metformin, the green alternative is berberine, all right? I did know that. I used to try to put people on berberine. The problem in the medical world is though that I would recommend berberine that they were gonna have to come to maybe either the internet or come down to the nutrition room and it was gonna cost them about 21 bucks.

I used to work with the working poor and so 20 bucks, 21 bucks was probably a lot for them. They want the $5 copay metformin prescription, you know. And so there’s a problem. And I think that’s something that maybe Kennedy will get to this in the next four to however many years we’re gonna have a role here. But why in the insurance paying for stuff that’s safe and effective? They should be, you know?

Clint Powell (17:16)
What else you got on your list?

Dr. Curt Dearing (17:17)
your claritin and xeritex, so your antihistamines. I did know about quercetin. I knew it existed. the only reason I knew it existed, because I used to take it, because during COVID, it’s a zinc ionophore, which allows zinc to be able to go in and keep a virus from replicating. So when they restricted hydroxychloroquine to the people, this became a natural alternative that could do the same thing as hydroxychloroquine. So…

But like I said last time, recently I said something to the effect of quercetin. I noticed that my allergies were doing better while I taking it. And was like, I don’t know why my allergies are doing so much better. But now I know because I found out that this is an anti, nature’s antihistamine. Also stinging nettle. I mean, actually I didn’t know anything about that till a couple of months ago. And I’ve used it now and it works like a charm. So I’m a big believer in it.

Your blood pressure medications, your enalapyril, low sardines, and low dopines. I just mentioned the three different things that when people are on blood pressure medicines, there’s a good chance they’re on one of those three. They’re either on an ACE inhibitor, low sardine, or amyloid pain. It’s amazing how many people are on those. So what did I know that we had? I probably knew a little bit about garlic maybe could be something, beetroot extract, maybe, but had no idea there was hibiscus, that co-cutin actually lowers blood pressures.

French grape seed extract is great. all that’s new to me. Stress, anxiety. So you’ve got the benzodiazepines and stuff. Now we’re not going have anything, I don’t think, the green pharmacy that’s going to be like a benzodiazepine. Right. Once again, everything comes at a cost though. know, those things after you stay on them for a good while, you’re pretty good chance you’re going to get addicted to them. Not a good chance you’re going to get addicted to anything in the…

Clint Powell (19:06)
Well it depends, would imagine, you’re starting to process on these things too, right? Because sometimes, and I’m throwing this out there anecdotally just my life, sometimes if I start taking something from the Green Pharmacy, like you mentioned earlier to the gentleman that’s coming in before he’s had any intervention, if I can get in the middle or the beginning of something, my body and my mind just need little kickstart. In other words, I don’t go down the rabbit hole so far. My body and my mind are ready to respond. So maybe something like one of these products will help me generate my own momentum.

get my body jump started again. because sometimes I just need a little help. I don’t and if I wait or I get on one of these other medical products, the help’s gone. Now I’m just dependent.

Dr. Curt Dearing (19:38)
Yeah, yeah,

Yeah, L-theanine. L-theanine, I did know about L-theanine. And that’s the reason being is that this is, when I got COVID three times, all right, first of all, I’ve been through, I had a job for 25 years at Erlanger and I loved my job and I was always happy working there. I was always upbeat, never sick, 25 years, never sick. I think there was one Christmas.

when I was at the in-laws and I was, you you let your guard down a little bit, it seems like when you’re totally relaxed or whatever, sometimes it hits you. I got the flu one time in 25 years. I guess the only time I can remember you say, and I never missed a day at work. Okay. All right. And then I got, the next job I got was at the health department and nothing against them, but what I was doing there is not a good fit for me. All right. And,

When you’re kind of feel trapped, I don’t know, I ended up with COVID three times. could say that there was no COVID prior to when I was working. The last year I was at Erlanger, hit. My daughter and two of her friends came home from college, stayed in our house, had COVID. I was with them right next to them. I wasn’t worried about it. Right with them, I never caught it. But then all of a sudden, so in other words, what I’m getting at is I think

that when you’re upbeat and life is not all, when life’s not perfect or it’s not great, I think you have more of tendency to get sick.

Clint Powell (21:27)
Well, I will and then I want to finish Liz because I want to wrap it up talking about what you what I think you do here and let you confirm or deny it but I think when your body’s stressed emotionally and Anxiety it suppresses everything. I mean that’s that’s I think there are studies around that, know when we are experiencing stress Our body reacts like it’s physical too. It goes. Okay. We’re under stress. He’s not sleeping good His his heart rate’s always up. He’s not breathing right? Why are these hormones getting released?

Dr. Curt Dearing (21:36)
Yes.

Clint Powell (21:53)
Something’s up and then you get a hit by something and your body doesn’t have the strength to fight it all off Yeah, so and I think that is a true That’s why I think you know trying to find ways to to sound too hippish But stay grounded and get a little sun and do all these things But keep going down your list before I ask you the final thing

Dr. Curt Dearing (22:10)
just to finish up on the COVID thing is that I had a whole protocol and I used to share it with people. Matter of fact, I used to put packets together for my family and friends. And as soon as they told me they had COVID, I went over and rushed it to them and gave it to them. And you would be amazed at how many would say within 24 hours they were already turning around. And this was just big doses of vitamin D, big doses of vitamin C, mainly the quercetum with zinc were the two big things. And then I was throwing in

all kinds of other different things with that and it worked like a charm and it worked like a charm for me too when I got COVID but me being why I don’t know why I did this this is prior to having the full knowledge I have now okay of things but part of the protocol that I stole from like the Dr. McCall and those guys but they had a little thing said if on day five you have access to a z-pack take a z-pack if you have access to

a steroid, prednisone, if you have access to it, but I should have never taken it because I didn’t need it. I was having no symptoms at all. But just to be sort of whatever, took it, shake in the box, and I never had, I had taken prednisone in the past, I don’t remember why, but I’d taken some, I’d never had any problems.

Clint Powell (23:17)
who are checking the boxes.

Dr. Curt Dearing (23:30)
But day five of having COVID was the day that I started on prednisone. those, looking back, those were the days that I first started to feel anxiety. And so I was having this anxiety. I had never had this before. I’d never experienced in my life. I didn’t know what it was. And I don’t know, being a typical man or whatever, I didn’t even want to talk about it to people. I didn’t want to talk to my wife like, hey, I’m feeling these weird things or something’s wrong here.

And I you know, it’s not the best way to be, because I think sometimes talking through things with people is the best way to get it out of you, you know, when you stop worrying about worrying and that kind of thing. anyway, the condo, and I did this two times, I did this prednisone thing before I realized it’s the damn prednisone that’s causing this anxiety on me. And it must have been, I don’t know, it was tipping me over the edge because this stuff, literally took me months and months to get over this anxiety.

Anyway, but during that time I did take L-theanine to take the edge off. So I did know a little bit about L-theanine. didn’t mean to go… Depression. No idea that saffron was as good as it is. Nexium, the proton pump inhibitors that we’ve got all kinds of, DGL, mastic gum, curcumin actually. I laugh about this. Pretty much everything I’ve mentioned here, curcumin’s good for. Right. So anyway, Zofran.

Clint Powell (24:35)
That’s okay, we only got you missed.

Dr. Curt Dearing (24:57)
You know, it’s hard to beat Zofran, but it does come with some side effects. It is gonna make you sleepy. It is gonna give you constipation. is. But ginger works pretty dead gum good. I never gave it the credit it was due. I remember a cousin of mine was on a ship, had some ginger, and I just kind of remember thinking that, that’s kind of, that’s kind of whatever, know, hokey or whatever, but that’s back before I had the value, the understanding that I have now of how this stuff really works, which is a part of our training.

in the medical world, we are in a subtle way, we’re taught to sort of undermine and whatever that. Devalue. Devalue this world over here which is unfortunate. And then the last one was the statins and we’ve got so many good things, bergamot ⁓ and red yeast rice and things.

Clint Powell (25:46)
That’s

a great place to kind of wrap this part up in the the podcast up because I asked you what you do and you do the coaching and you gave us a couple examples I’m gonna say something to you and you say it back if I’m right and then we’re gonna tell people how to get a hold of you if they want to whether it’s going to website or whatever but your job is one of the reasons and I’ve brought you stuff that like my parents may be on is to actually do what you were doing at that diabetic the diabetes clinic which is to get people if possible by the way always ask your doctor before you stop medicines

We’re not here to treat or diagnose. This is something you need to talk to your professional.

Dr. Curt Dearing (26:18)
Yeah, and every console I do, put on the end of it. This is intended to be in conjunction with your medical doctor.

Clint Powell (26:26)
to get you curious and informed and so you can start asking the right question.

Dr. Curt Dearing (26:29)
They’re

always feeling like yeah, you want me to share this with my and I’m like, yeah I’m I’m a grown man has been around for a while here. I can back up what I’m ⁓

Clint Powell (26:41)
Call me. Well,

but I want to finish that up because it’s your job It seems like to get people off those things if at all possible to improve your life Come let’s talk to me where you’re at with your symptoms bring your list of medications and when at all possible let’s either reduce the amount you’re using or Get you off of yeah, and that what you do a lot of

Dr. Curt Dearing (26:59)
It’s enough.

Mostly and and there are certain and I think you get the feeling that I’m not a big fan of statin So I definitely try to get them off statin Yeah, but the blood pressure meds a lot of them don’t have a big problem with but what I’ve learned since I’ve been here is that Instead of giving him this Pharmaceutical here that’s gonna lower their blood pressure has got good outcome studies. It’s fine But when I give him something that’s not only gonna lower their blood pressure, but it’s also gonna have all these side benefits

Clint Powell (27:31)
And it’s a little more natural.

Dr. Curt Dearing (27:32)
Yeah, that’s biggest thing I see between the two worlds is that the pharmaceutical world, sometimes you can hit the nail on the head and you have no side effects. eventually there’s going to be a side effect, know, or probably going to be a side effect and you probably have some side effects you’re not even aware of, or what it’s doing to your kidneys or your liver or your depletion of minerals and vitamins.

Clint Powell (27:58)
as you know right you don’t know it to also where

Dr. Curt Dearing (28:00)
There’s

all these nutraceuticals, the green pharmacy has all these side, I call benefits. There are not only are they helping you with this, but they’re doing all these other great things in the body too. Right. So very rarely, mean, zinc might give you, zinc will give me, it’ll make me nauseous if I take it on empty stomach. But there’s very few things that are just going to affect you real negatively.

Clint Powell (28:24)
And

then there’s alternatives if somebody hears this podcast ago, that’s a cool story. I’m glad he’s there I want to talk to him. Is it they should they go through the website? Do they call the number do they call you is it nutrition w.com and you’re on there is that the? You take appointment

Dr. Curt Dearing (28:37)
best way or they can come in to the store.

I do take up moments. Absolutely. When I leave here, somebody will be waiting on me.

Clint Powell (28:45)
time

should someone set aside for that appointment? I’m asking because I know you. If somebody comes in, because one of the things that we talk about, which is a benefit to the client, very rarely if you say it’s a 45 minute meeting, is it a 45 minute

Dr. Curt Dearing (28:59)
Well,

it’s supposed to be a 50 minute consult. You’re paying for a 50 minute consult, but when you come in, the guy that’ll come in today at 11.30, he will, at 12.30 something, I’ll notice that it’s kind of gone over an hour and I’ll say, let’s, any other questions in, then we’ll talk for the, and then I actually get up and I go out into the store and help them pick out the things that we think are gonna make them better.

Clint Powell (29:25)
I’ve never met a coach that’s on the floor as much as you. That’s a compliment as much as anything. ⁓ So if you’re wanting a coach or if you see Dr. Daring on the floor, he’s probably with somebody. So ⁓ you might ask him a question, but he’s not going to brush you off, but he’s probably in the middle helping somebody shop for something. I’m glad you’re part of the Nutrition World family. Great to be here. Thank you very much for your time. I know you’re super busy. And if anybody’s interested, you can go to nutritionw.com.

Dr. Curt Dearing (29:43)
Yeah, me too. Yeah, let’s re-

Clint Powell (29:54)
under the coaching and you’ll find Dr. Derry. Thank you, man. Bye everybody.

Dr. Curt Dearing (29:57)
Thank you.